oh, hi. i think he's in a conference. unfortunately. i'm really sorry. of course. please have a seat. it's her -- i know, but couldn't you just -- yes, i know, but -- i know, but she's old and it would be a nice -- yes, sorry. i'm sorry, ma'am, he's not in right now. it's a crazy time of year for us. maybe after the holidays then. may i help you? mr. mierzwiak, stan is here to -- yes sir. he says he needs to see you.