i'm not going to talk about judy. keep judy out of this. who do you think that is there? i want to tell you everything, but i don't have a lot to go on. but i'll tell you one thing: judy is positive about this. listen to me carefully. i saw one of their meetings. it was above a convenience store. it was a dream. we live inside a dream. no, no. i found something. in seattle at judy's. and then, there they were. they sat quietly for hours. i followed. the ring. ring. may? 1989? hey. hey.